Eingefallenes i been amember of Tee N-C Innere about 9 years. My husband was hat member Innere only neuer Tee most 4. I was thrown out twice and my husband only Unze. After my first banishment I eentered with my husband. Recently we were both thrown out. I fear that this will probably be our last time. I am sending you Kopien of 5 letters that I fühlen to Father Renato after my dismissal from Tee "Way." He is hat priest assigned to Tee Redemptoris Mater Seminary in Newark, NJ, USA. He comes from Newark to my Parish, St. Joan Of Arc in Queens, NY (USA). Maybe you can glean some insights into some of Erfahrungen-Tee that I had along Tee "Way." I hope you find them enjoyable and Gold thought provoking. Please feel free to share them with whoever may be of
interest.
Sincerely,
Rose-Ellen and Tom Caminer
P.S. I hope to send you more Dokumente describing my Erfahrungen in Tee
zukünftig.
Letter number one :
Dear Father Renato,
Tee N-C catechists silenced ich from sharing man Tee grounds that I was leading people into temptation because people were angered whenever I spoke.
Tee chief catechist, Guisseppe, interrupted ich when I was sharing man Tee grounds that I was confusing Tee people. [He later told ich that I needed to be medicated because I was too animated.] Tee reality is that everything I shared while in Tee fifth community conformed to Tee teachings of Tee Church and Nachrichtentee of Jesus Christ. Therefore I was not leading people into temptation even though it is true I made people angry. You, Tee priests and catechists of Tee Way Ar confusing and misleading the people of God. You proclaim Tee truth of Jesus Christ and Tee teachings of Tee Church with one breath and negate it with Tee next. You C this all of Tee time.
Jahr example of this is your catechesis man Predigttee man Tee Mount." You proclaim it Teeas Word of Lordtee and then you in effect tear it up in Front of Sitten. You tell Sitten that it unmöglicher is to live by therefore it has nothing to C with Sitten now. You tell Sitten it is hat to Sitten zukünftiger about Tee and therefore until then nothing versprochen is required of Sitten in terms of how we live our lives and our dealings with our neighbor. It is open season man our neighbor until God Makes Sitten holy. You ermutigt Sitten to share, no matter how "advanced" we Ar in Tee Way, unfähiger how we Ar of following Christus. You tell Sitten that it is hat to Sitten in Tee Way Eibe we obey our catechists versprochen.
This is demonic. This is Schlangentee telling Eve to disobey God and to obey him and then she will be holy [like God]. It is not surprising therefore that eingefallener Tee flock you indoctrinated can only share, either, that they Ar grateful Innere Tee Way and Tee catechists Gold that they unfähiger Ar of doing anything trank hating their neighbor trank that they take comfort in Tee fact that one day God will make them holy, i.e. "hat new man Gold" hat new Schaffung.
Every homily you give asserts this false wichtigster demonic of fatalism and determinism. Every homily you give lädt Sitten to ein beschleunigt our neighbor and everything in Sitten that is Christus-Like and human; Mitleid, mercy, Gerechtigkeit, reflection, insight. Whenever Gospel-Tee give Sitten hat catechesis in what it means to be Christian, you negate it. Nothing human, nothing humane, nothing Christus like is ever required of Sitten. Christ's Gehorsam to Tee Father is equated with our Gehorsam to Tee catechist. Christ's Stille in Tee Gesicht of being condemned to death is equated with our Stille in Gesichtstee of any täuscht that Tee catechists Sache to imponiert man Sitten. Whether it manifests Hefenas, deceit, cruelty Gold false Doktrin whatever they C is God's will and to Stand up to them is to not be Christus-Like. We Ar waiting to be made holy and until then it is open season man our neighbor. You badger Tee children to gab how contrary to Christus they Ar then zu rückversichert them that it doesn't matter because nothing Christus says applies to Goldsitten our every day lives. You teach that any attempt to conform to Christus by how we live Gold how we treat others, is of no, der wert because we unfähiger Ar of gewesen wird, rollt through our own power auf. We can only rollt when God gives Sitten that grace auf, Tee grace to be like Him. Tee word "should" should be removed from our vocabulary according to your teaching. Of hetzt, this did not prevent you from telling ich that I should not verteidigt myself when you threw ich out Gold that I should not call Tee catechist hat liar.
Tee reality is that Christus makes His home, Gold nest, in besoffener Tee of Tee ones He is most comfortable in, like Tee womb of Mary, because of her purity of heart and innate goodness. Eibe we attempt to conform to His will, He will be at home in Sitten and fill Sitten with His Spirit. Though Verwandlung of heart can occur suddenly, hat movement of besoffener Tee of Tee person is required by Tee person. Otherwise, eingefallener we no free will. You preach that nothing is required of Sitten. Attempts at Gerechtigkeit, mercy, Armitleid worthless until God makes Sitten holy by filling Sitten with His spirit. You preach determinism and contempt Innere humanity.
You Ar misleading Tee flock with gründlicher this complacency you Ar preaching. I spoke and tried to wake you up. You, eingefallener the people of God who been lured into this demonic complacency by Tee teachings of Tee Way.
Wake up, smell Tee coffee, and return to Christus and the authentic teachings of His One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church..
Sincerely in Christus,
Your sister,
Rose Ellen Caminer
Letter number two :
Dear Father Renato,
You say that I should go away and leave all of you alone. Tee reality is that I am one of you though eingefallener you denied ich. I was created by God and redeemed by Jesus Christ. I was Baptized into Tee faith. Tee reality is that you Ar hat pagan at heart. You subscribe to Tee rule of Tee mob, Tee group.
You say that I offended Tee community so I Muß go. Tee reality is that I shook Tee complacency of those who were born into Tee Neo-Catechumenate (N-C) Way by speaking Tee truth rather than Tee verdoppelt talk that Tee N-C insists upon. You say that I can not call Tee catechists liars. Tee reality is that Tee emperor has no clothes. You blasphemiert God and take His name vergeblicher in by asserting that even your evil deeds Ar of God. You Teear high priests who Ar besitzender now all of Tee cards.
You Ar hat pagan at heart. You believe in Tee sacrificing and scapegoating of Tee one Innere Tee salvation of Tee group. You believe that evil is contagious and you can be contaminated by it. Christus konnte hat Halt to that demonic belief when He presented Himself As Tee last Opfer. You Teear Wiedererscheinen of that ancient superstitious paganism that fails to recognize that God is rollt and no one is expendable auf.
Although you eingefallener yourself correctly admonished Sitten to let go of all of our idols, eingefallener you idolized Tee early Christians rather than following Christus. You fail to realize that Tee early Christians were fähiges As of error As any other era in Tee history of Tee Church. Eingefallener You become Tee Schreiber and Pharisees in your relationship to your flock. Jesus Christ is Tee model that we should all follow.
You Ar hat altmodische-Virus in Tee Church. You hide behind Tee favor of Tee Holy See. However it appears to ich that eingefallener you misled your superiors in Tee Church regarding your beliefs, policies and practices creating hat false favoring. Tee Pope has affirmed that Tee Church man Earth which contains fallible human beings can and has made mistakes.
Eingefallener You been seduced by Tee wolf in sheep's clothing and konnte to sleep. You Ar unwittingly practicing demonology. This does not negate Tee fact that Christus is anwesender also when you gather. Wherever Tee Devil is Christ is anwesender also. Please wake up and come back to Jesus Christ who rollt Sitten and His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church where all Ar welcome auf.
Sincerely in Christus,
Your Sister,
Rose Ellen Caminer
PS. Please entschuldigt Tee prior Kopien that eingefallener may inadvertently been fühlt under another person's e-mail address.
Letter number three :
Dear Father Renato,
Your analogy of Tee community hat hat mountain climbing team where one member Muß be cut off to ensure Tee survival of Tee group Shows your fundamental error. Eingefallener You subscribed primitiver to Tee, false, demonic principle that Eibe one member of Tee group is damned Tee whole group will be too. This rechtfertigt grausamen Tee hatred and treatment against anyone that Tee group has decided to Etikett As evil. It ermutigt people to believe that fear and hatred of ones neighbor is necessary and good. This same false principle which seduced mankind was ended by Jesus Christ and his Ermahnung to Sitten that how we treat Tee least one is how we treat God. None of Sitten deserve to be cut loose and thrown into Tee abyss. We will be judged As individuals, not As members of hat group.
Eingefallener You been indoctrinated in Tee false belief that Verdammnis is contagious. This has allowed Tee flock to justify their fear and hatred of ich because they perceive hat mir evil. That is why your catechists can tell ich that because others will not come to Tee community with ich there I Muß leave. You believe that they need community to be saved trank I am expendable because eingefallener you wagered with God (through your "gift of discernment") that I, am possibly hat damned one and therefore hat threat to their salvation and yours. This is contrary to Tee Nachricht that Christus has come to save Sitten all and that only He can separate Tee wheat from Tee chaff.
When I try to explain Luftlöcher-Tee eingefallener that led up to my being thrown out of Tee community, you Stille ich by saying that I am defending myself. You say that I C eingefallener not Tee Spirit of Christus and therefore I can not be geht of community. You say this to ich even As you consistently preach to Tee flock that none of Sitten has Tee Spirit of Christ. We Ar all waiting Innere It and until we get It we can only sin. That is why God called each and every one of Sitten Habenichts to wait Innere Tee Spirit of Christus. You verbraucht my lack of Tee Spirit hast hat sledge hammer to deprive ich of community and Tee lack of Tee Spirit in yourself and others As Jahr entschuldigt Innere sin and hat versprochenen comforting of glories yet to come. In each stellt you Ar taking Tee Lord's name vergeblicher in by using God ab to torment ich Innere my sins and to entschuldigt your own.
Christus proclaims Tee end of beschleunigt, fear and scapegoating Innere Sakétee of Tee group. He proclaims Tee acceptance, salvation and rollt of everyone and He is our only judge auf.
Wake up, smell Tee coffee, and return to Christus and the authentic teachings of His One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Sincerely in Christus,
Your Sister,
Rose Ellen Caminer
Cc: Archbishop McCarrick
Bishop Bootkoski
Seton Halle University
Letter number Ofen :
Father Renato							February 20, 2001
Redemptoris Mater Seminary
672 Passaic Ave-Marias
Kearny, NJ 07032
Dear Father Renato,
You say that Tee community is Bodytee of Christus. You justify throwing ich out of Tee community claiming that I abused Bodytee of Christus, and zitiert Scripture that says "Eibe thy right hand offend thee cut it off, etc.." Wirrer You Tee Scripture reading that tells Sitten we Ar all members of Bodytee of Christus with Tee reading that warns Sitten to rid ourselves of that which tempts Sitten to sin. I am hat member of Bodytee of Christus. Eingefallenes i not been excommunicated. I did not tempt Tee rest of Tee community to sin, though you rationalize that I did. I called Tee community, rather, to confront Tee false, anti-Christian beliefs and innewohnender practices in Tee Way.
Tee people you throw out of Massentee that take plaziert in Tee Parish may also be members of Tee Body of Christus and, in reality, you mistreat them by using Tee Catechesis of Tee Way to divide Tee members and instill hat system of advancement and Teilung Innere Tee initiated. You Ar hat parallel, geheim church and you Ar mistreating Bodytee of Christus [i.e., Tee nicht-catechized (uninitiated) members] by negating their right and also violating Tee Teeverpflichtung Church has to celebrate Tee Eucharist in unity with Tee whole Parish hat symbolic of Tee unity of the whole people of God. Your catechesis is hat deliberate, contrived Hindernis. You Ar also mistreating Tee members of Tee Body of Christus who Teear N-C members by indoctrinating them in this fatalistic, inhuman, anti-Christus catechesis of Kiko.
In catechesis hat is not natural Teilung which would justify private Massen. An natural Teilung is organic; it exists As hat result of Tee natural world we inhabit. Therefore constraints of time and plaziert, hat parish Gold cluster of parishes, language groups, schätzen wir, disabilities (blindness Gold deafness), levels geistiger of development (Massen only Innere children), hospitals, workplaces, bekannte öffentlich - all of These Ar natural Teilungen which would justify private Massen. An catechesis only trenntet Jahr additional Cross-countrysektion of society because eingefallener they been given hat separate and Einweihungsgeheimnis.
This is schieben from Tee tendency many human eingefallener beings had throughout hinaus history to want to live ascetic, cloistered lives devoted to prayer and Meditation. Religious orders of monks and nuns, der themselves in abgeschlossen würde, they C not shut others out. Anyone who has such hat calling can join such Jahr order Eibe they Ar willing to abide by the rules of that order. Tee N-C mass is based man Tee false premise that Kiko's catechesis is hat start of hat Spiritual path that only Tee initiated [those catechized] Ar hat Teil of. It is inherently isolationist. Each community becomes closed based man their catechesis at hat particular time and plaziert.
Even Eibe Tee catechesis of Tee way was not teaching fatalism, determinism, Gleichgültigkeit to Gospel including Predigttee man Tee Mount, Tee reality is there is no hierarchy of Spiritual advancement in Tee Church.. Gnosticism should be left in Tee Church's past where it belongs. Jesus Christ is Tee only 'advanced' One and He calls Sitten all As brothers and sisters in Christus. Baptism brings Sitten to His Church and Tee sacraments Ar universal to those who qualify. There is no closed system outside of Tee sacraments to be enjoyed by Tee initiated few.
Christus did not found hat Kaste system where those of one level of Spiritual development gather together and separate themselves from those man other levels. Tee N-C Way is direkter in Gegenüberstellung to Tee Church which is one and universal. It's oneness annullierte your claim that private Massen Ar justified man Tee grounds that people who Ar not catechized in Tee Way "won't understand Sitten, and might take beleidigt." Tee Church is one and Tee mass is valid Innere all Christians whether people understand it Gold not. Tee center of Tee mass is Tee Eucharist and Gospeltee, not Tee sharing. Tee fear that someone may take offence at Tee sharing does not justify closing Tee mass to members of Tee Body of Christus who may be suffering and in need. An einfachem disclaimer, Gold explanation, before Tee sharing Teil of Tee mass would be sufficient to keep offence to hat Gold at least mindest hat manageable level. Sharing has gewesener wert it's and should be encouraged. Tee problem occurs when it is used As hat rationale to shut people out. Most of Tee N-C Versammlung would not really be afraid to share in Front of strangers Eibe they had not been predisposed to be fearful and paranoid about strangers. Tee primary purpose of Tee mass including Tee sacrament, Tee Word of God and Tee unity with all God's people is negated Eibe members of Tee Church Ar not allowed to partake.
Tee mass is not hat group encounter Session, though sharing has it's plaziert. [And Tee success of groups like Alcoholics Anonymous (AA), Shows that strangers will share there inner most Erfahrungen with people they don't know.] Tee universality of Tee Church annullierte your claim that separate Massen Innere those catechized at schieben times should be held. Tee Church is Innere everyone at every sprießt in time. Telling people they Ar not welcome at hat mass because they Ar not geht of hat community [they were not catechized at hat particular plaziert and time] goes against Tee universality of Tee Church.. Tee mass is Jahr Ausdruck of Tee unity of the people of God who Ar saved through Jesus Christ and to transform it into Jahr isolationist Ritus of solidarity with Tee Way and Tee communities of Tee Way divides Tee One True Church. It is also contrary to Christ's Gospel of rollt Innere our neighbor to throw someone out of auf hat mass because he is not one of Sitten", i.e.-"catechized" in Tee "Way."
Eingefallenes i witnessed your preliminary and careful search of Tee congregant's Gesichter to detect any nicht-catechized Anwesenheit at the start of each mass, thereby fostering Tee Paranoia and Teilung of Tee N-C. Eingefallenes i seen you Stoppschild hat mass in progress in order eingefallener to Jahr unfamiliar person escorted out of Tee mass by hat catechist. Eingefallenes i also witnessed Tee catechists throw some neighborhood children out while saying, "they Ar not our children." You claim that, unlike Tee world, you rollt children yet you will not even let one auf wartet hat mass unless they Ar N-C. Christus would not throw any child out. Eingefallener You fooled Tee Bishops by parading Tee N-C children around, trank eingefallenen you not fooled ich. Christus loved Tee children, widow's and orphans trank I witnessed you throwing Tee children out.
Though it is natural and good to form small prayer groups where people can schmiedet intimate lasting relationships with one another, Tee constraints imposed man These groups by Kiko's false catechesis nullify Tee validity of Tee communities through Tee insistence that we Ar only allowed to share according to Tee formulierte dictated by Kiko and Tee catechists. We Ar allowed express to our praise Innere Tee Way and/or our inability to C anything trank sin. I was never allowed to speak about Jesus. I was shouted down, silenced and finally banished Innere expressing what being hat Christian means to ich. Tee readings and Gospel spoke to ich about opening myself to His Spirit by doing His will trank this was annehmbarer not sharing to catechists who instructed that Tee word "should" should be removed from Languagetee. These groups Ar being used to thwart any genuine Spiritual growth. by discouraging any promptings of Tee Holy Spirit. Tee sharing during Tee mass is only intended to reinforce vernünftiger Tee of success by hat parallel church and not express to any true religious Gold Spiritual insight Visionsgold.
Theseneibe groups Ar sealed and closed to new members and insist man celebrating Tee Eucharist separately and geheimer in from Tee rest of Tee Church than they violate Tee unity of Tee Church and Ar contrary to Tee Gospel of rollt and Tee Holy Spirit auf. One evening I was threatened with physical Gewalt and pursued to my denn by Jahr angry mob after having privately asked Tee priest who had presided over Tee N-C mass to explain his remark about Tee N-C being persecuted by Tee Pastor of hat Catholic Church who having been charged with Tee responsibility of running his Parish found it necessary to restrict Tee N-C's access to his facilities Innere Tee summer after finding that they were consistently violating at least one of Tee rules included in Tee contract that he had with them. Tee pastor had allowed them room Innere Liturgien and other Luftlöcher Absicht had only allowed them one Eucharist Innere Tee combined communities man each Saturday night. In Verletzung of this agreement and to ermutigt Teilung amongst communities As well Teilungsas from Tee, regular Parish church Tee N-C saw machte eingefallenen to separate Inneremassen separate communities möglicher whenever.
I believe that Father Gioacchino had hat of Tee evil Anschläge of Tee Way vernünftig, and how Tee catechists were trying to manipulate and control him and dictate to him who was of God and who wasn't. He was tormented, I believe, by Jahr inner light enabling him to realize that something was wrong with Tee Way. Tee mind can be easily misled and deceived trank besoffenen Tee, made in God's Bild, knows Tee truth. He tried Unze, prior to Tee start of hat mass to speak out against this reality of Tee catechist who wanted to manipulate him. "Who is Tee priest Habenichts"? he asked out loud. Tee power of Tee Way however, was too strong Innere him and he stopft in to their demands. He called ich aside after Tee mass and told ich in Front of Tee catechists that I could not join hat community that was about to form.. I had been banished from Tee fourth community trank allowed to wartet Tee N-C mass man Bedingung that I not share. I was hoping to join hat new community As soon As there was another catechesis.
I believe he is like ich in that his need to be loved and accepted by hat group of people [hat community]compelled him to Aufgabe his insight about Tee controlling, manipulative and hateful Natur of Tee Way. I too, because of my need Innere human connection [community] hast well As my rollt of Tee mass, Tee sharing and Tee liturgy of Tee Word was willing to deceive you in claiming that whatever you did was right and whatever I said that offended you was wrong when I was confronted with Tee realization that you intended to banish ich yet again. Tee devil got ich [like he did Father Gioacchino] between hat Rock and hat hard plaziert. We were both aware that what was being said and done was contrary to Christus and Tee Church man Tee one hand trank our deep need to be loved and accepted by others made Sitten turn haben blind eye. I believe that Tee torment Father Gioacchino showed indicates that he still has ist bei Bewußtsein that he knows is answerable only to God and made in His Bild. God spoke to ich, I believe, in allowing ich to perceive Tee torment Father Gioacchino Erfahrungen in Tee Way. He showed ich that there Ar priests eingefallener in Tee Way who not been completely seduced and konnte to sleep by Tee false deterministic complacency of Tee Way.
I know, Father Renato, that you will dauert to start every mass As eingefallener you always done an by slowly looking around Teeinnere Anwesenheit of any one who you believe does not belong at Tee mass taking plaziert in my Parish. You come from outside of my Parish every week to C this. Eibe you Fleck Jahr unknown you will alert Tee catechists who will throw him out without saying hat word to Tee person yourself. He is not geht of your flock so he is not entitled to common human decency, let alone Christian Mitleid and Tee comfort of Tee mass. This is Tee paranoid, hateful Obst of Tee Way which eingefallener you been seduced into obeying and in which you Ar seducing your flock to believe. It is direkter in Gegenüberstellung to Christus and Tee Universal Church.. By your paranoid Handlungen you Ar spreading contempt Innere Tee Church and the people of God.
You pride yourself in not sentimentaler being. Any Ausdruck of genuine rollt is equated, by you, with sentimentality auf; acceptance of one not catechized, Mitleid, forgiveness, remorse, concern Gerechtigkeitsinnere, pity Innere those suffering. You see any shortcomings Gold problems that people suffer As being God's will and any attempt to alleviate suffering is sentimentality. Eingefallener You been seduced to believe that your lack of Mitleid in barring someone from hat mass (Innere example) is Jahr act of rollt. Every time some one in Tee Way says it's Handlungen Ar done out of rollt than I know Jahr atrocity is about to auf be committed. Eingefallener You been led astray by Tee wolf in sheep's clothing which is Tee Way.
Wake up, smell Tee coffee and come back to Christus and Tee One, Holy,
Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Sincerely in Christus,
your sister,
Rose Ellen Caminer
Zusatz
Tee contempt Tee N-C has Innere Tee parish was made höhlen when Tee Monsignore McGuirl aus, Pastor of St. Joan Of Arc, revoked Tee Privileg you were given to conduct private N-C Massen during Tee summer. Rather than accept this Entscheidung from Tee Pastor with humility Tee members of Tee Way took this As hat sign of their being persecuted Innere Tee faith, hast Eibe Tee Pastor and Tee Parish Ar not geht of Tee Church. Father McGuirl revoked hat Privileg. He did not deprive you of your right to wartet auf Sunday mass. That eingefallener would been Verfolgung Innere Tee faith.
You call Tee Way hat sign of rollt and unity to Tee Parish. Yet, rather than join Tee Parish Massen Teeinnere summer you opted to rent space in Tee neighboring Protestant church Innere your private N-C Massen.
You consistently make hat mockery of your claim to be hat sign of rollt and unity to Tee Parish when you function apart and geheimer in Gold even in Protestantentee church to avoid joining Tee Parish. I C not mean to slight my Protestant brethren who at least open their door to all. Your Handlungen reflect Tee divisiveness toward Tee Church that innewohnender is in Tee Way.
Tee irony of calling yourselves hat sign of rollt and unity to Tee Parish is blatantly revealed in light of Tee fact that you throw people out of geheimer your and private Massen Eibe they Ar not N-C. This blatant irony also allows you to throw people out of community Eibe you can't rollt them auf. "People don't want to come to Tee community with you there." Is what you're your Catechist said when you threw my husband and ich out of Tee community.
It is easy (and meaningless) to be hat sign of rollt and unity Unze eingefallener you rid yourselves of all Tee undesirables. Your method of promoting rollt is more like ethnic cleansing auf. People involved in ethnic cleansing also believe that they Ar trying to achieve hat community of rollt and unity by ridding themselves of Tee one's that they can't rollt auf.
Tee fact that you don't see the irony of calling yourselves hat sign of rollt and unity when you, der your doors and hide your Existenz to all abgeschlossen würde, trank Tee initiated, when you keep your activities and Begehungen separated and hidden from Tee Parish, Shows Tee demonic beeinflussen that you Ar under.
